quittin' smoking

Jeremy David epistemology at gmail.com
Tue Mar 14 15:33:39 EST 2006


On 3/14/06, Chris Rapier <rapier1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Last notes on this. I'm not going to reply to further comments. This
> is just too engrossing and I need to get some other shit done today.
>

> 3) No one should *force* you to breathe smoke like that. In most cases
> though no one is actually forcing you to breath the smoke. They
> aren't. You are in a club. You chose to go there. No one made you.
> Since you made the choice to go to a club where smoking is legal then
> you cannot argue that you were forced into it. Therefore, at this
> point, it because a matter of who is more personally inconvenienced.
> You don't have to go to that show, you don't have to go to that club.
> You might like to, but no one is making you. Likewise no one has to
> smoke at that club and no one has to smoke at that show. As such I
> find the health impact diversionary because of the initial choice that
> all the patrons at the club made.

So basically, if everyone else is doing it, even if it's deadly, you
have to go along with it, or just stay home.

> 4) The actual national health impact of passive smoking is actually
> quite small. Accepting the possibly biased facts from cancer.org we
> have 3,000 additional death per year from passive smoking. That ends
> up being a yearly risk to nonsmokers of .001% Its very likely that
> reducing the exposure further reduces the risk. This isn't to say that
> this is 'unimportant' just that its not as horrific as some seem to
> imply as they use loaded langauge.

Why do so many people keep insinuating that the American Cancer
Society and the AMA are somehow biased aganst the truth? What kind of
bizzaro world are you guys living in? One where the doctors are not to
be trusted and breathing in known carcinogens is a good idea?

DON'T TRUST THE DOCTORS! THEY'RE OUT TO GET US ALL! YOU MUST KEEP GETTING HIGH!


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