quittin' smoking

Mike Yacht meatnog at meatnog.com
Tue Mar 14 11:45:33 EST 2006


Oh, Chris, don't pout just because I didn't agree with you.  If your own
hypocrisy isn't evident to you then no analogy will make it self-evident to
you.


- Mike 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Rapier [mailto:rapier1 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:42 AM
> To: Mike Yacht
> Cc: pgh-goth-list at listless.org
> Subject: Re: quittin' smoking
> 
> What an utterly bogus analogy. Come up with one that actually
> supoprtable and I'll address it.
> 
> On 3/14/06, Mike Yacht <meatnog at meatnog.com> wrote:
> > Yes, and if you don't like that the society passes such laws you can go
> to a
> > state/country that doesn't have them.
> >
> > I love the libertarian vacuum fallacy!
> >
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pgh-goth-list-bounces at listless.org [mailto:pgh-goth-list-
> > > bounces at listless.org] On Behalf Of Chris Rapier
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:49 AM
> > > Cc: pgh-goth-list at listless.org
> > > Subject: Re: quittin' smoking
> > >
> > > See my whole feeling is that if you don't like the smoke you don't
> > > have to go there. Everyone makes choices in life and its really a
> > > matter of what option is most important to you. If going to a club or
> > > a bar that has smoking is more important than not being around smoke
> > > then thats your choice. Obviously, this is just as true for smokers.
> > > If going to a non-smoking place is more imporatnt to you than having a
> > > smoke then that is their choice. Each group respects the others
> > > boundaries and behaves themselves when they made the choice to go
> > > either type of location.
> > >
> > > Of course, no one really wants to allow that. I mean, why should we
> > > allow adults to engage in legal behaviour around other people who are
> > > cognizant of the risks and have made the choice to be there? Why
> > > should we when we can pass a law to criminalise behaviour? I love the
> > > nanny state! SWADDLE ME BABY!
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/14/06, gwen <gwenix at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > You know, even when smoking I've been all for banning indoors
> smoking
> > > > in the city.  It only takes five minutes to go outside to get a
> > > > cigarette, and the smoke isn't contained in a small space at that
> > > > point.
> > > >
> > > > Plus, it means I can stay at the clubs later myself -- my eyes react
> > > > badly to too much smoke.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > gwen.
> > > > gamergothgeek
> > > >
> > > > On 3/13/06, Sc'Eric (aka darkFIN) <darkfin6012 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > Thx, Gwen (et.al).... you're each one less person giving me
> > > nosebleeds,  asthmatic reactions, monovascular rhinitus polyps--and
> other
> > > sinus  infections caused by the immune deficiency resulting when your
> body
> > > is  constantly fighting allergens.  (Yes, that's 3 different
> reactions,
> > > depending on the tobacco.)  Seriously, keep it  up!!!  You have no
> idea
> > > how much hell you put other people through  every time you light up.
> > > > >
> > > > >   I'm just glad Manny provides a smoke-free venue to see shows or
> the
> > > only reason I'd have to drive to Pgh is to spend an entire paycheck at
> > > Eide's. =)
> > > > >
> > > > >   ~sc'eric
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