this Sautrday

[the mighty spork]

also, many people say they're into goth, and just dress in the clothing, 
they don't even realize there is such a thing as goth music.  It's the close 
mon.

Rick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <manny at telerama.com>
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Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:27 AM
Subject: Re: this Sautrday


>
> Because:
>
> A lot of what was considered original 'goth' in the 80s and early 90s 
> pre-Nine
> Inch Nails (like Cure, Siouxsie, Bauhaus) is now too 'rock' to be 'goth' - 
> it
> is now just considered to be 'postpunk'. If She Wants Revenge dress in 
> black,
> listen to old JD CDs and play mere rock music, they are postpunk (like
> Interpol). Not goth. At least by the new definition.
>
> The current generation (Gen-Yers) that followed the initial mid-90s 
> neogoth
> revival (Gen-Xers) redefined what goth is. It's not live music much 
> anymore.
> It's electronic club music that goes thud. It's trenchcoats, LARPing,
> livejournaling, dressing up in Hot Topic uniforms that are as much
> Slipknot-looking as anything else. From my perspective, *I* would call it
> 'post-goth' because it is no longer goth as I knew it. But from the 
> perspective
> of the participants it is still goth because they call it goth. So if the
> participants in the current incarnation of 'goth' call She Wants Revenge 
> 'goth'
> then it's goth, but if they don't consider it 'goth' then it's just 
> postpunk or
> some kind of chart-climbing alternative rock.
>
>
> I've been trying to figure out for quite some time why She Wants
>> > Revenge isn't goth.  I mean, they sound like they closed themselves
>> > into a room with only Joy Division, old Cure, and Bauhaus CDs and
>> > refused to come out until they'd sufficiently indocrinated
>> > themselves... then they wrote lyrics about bad relationships and
>> > bondage... and in the concert I saw, they were all dressed in black.
>> > So what isn't goth here?
>
>
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