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[The Lord of Beer]

At 02:39 PM 9/22/03, you wrote:
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>I have been elsewhere. Would be willing to bet more so than most on this 
>list. I do not recall any personal trauma either. I find this city lacking 
>in many ways for many reasons. I find the enviroment this city offers to 
>be shite. Some people I know have made it bearable - that and drinking.


I'll admit that it's not my fav city, but I've seen a lot worse than 
here.  Saying that there are reasons without giving them doesn't lend much 
credibility to your statement.  I don't mean a detailed listing, but one or 
two examples.

> > Its a safe, relatively cheap city with somewhat decent public
> > transportation and a little art & subculture everywhere.
>
>Relatively safe comapred to where?
>Quite a few shootings, muggings and other misc violent crimes reported in 
>Pittsburgh weekly.
>Pittsburgh's "subculture" is at best cliched and outdated. The majority of 
>Pittsburgh seems to think its either the late 70s or early 80s 
>still.  Public transporation is not too bad really. It is overpriced and 
>lacking in its scheduling compared to some other larger cities.

I will agree with you on public transportation.  Chicago, for example, has 
a much better system and costs less.  So far as safety is concern, yeah, 
Pittsburgh isn't safe but tell me which city is?  I lived in Baltimore and 
have visited several cities in my driftings.  There were a lot more violent 
crimes, vd, etc in Baltimore than here.

I live in Bellevue, and while that might not be my ideal place to life, it 
is a rellitively place to live.  I'd rather walk around downtown pgh at 
night than downtown Baltimore.  As much as I like Chicago, it's crime rate 
is pretty bad.


Is Pittsburgh a great place?  I don't think it's the best but I also don't 
see it as the shit hole you do.  Arguing this point is pointless.  If 
someone, like my girlfriend, loves the city, that's their right .. she 
loves NJ too .. no accounting for taste.  That's the right of 
everyone.  Plenty of people love NYC, I visit, but I don't love it.

Rick